Date: 2019-09-16 06:09 am (UTC)
kelkyag: eye-shaped patterns on birch trunk (birch eyes)
From: [personal profile] kelkyag
Miss Thorpe may be out of the action for a bit, but I rather doubt she'll be out of the story entirely, as she has an unresolved romantic triangle.

Date: 2019-09-16 06:18 am (UTC)
elmegil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elmegil
Always a solid plot armor :)

Date: 2019-09-16 10:00 am (UTC)
soncnikralj: (Default)
From: [personal profile] soncnikralj
True that. However, he was one of Agatha's character-forming, um, characters, helping with her breakthrough and paving the way for Gil's and Tarvek's romantic quests. Also... Lars fulfilled his lifelong dream and hence his destiny.

I think Trelawney will be OK, Albia still needs her - and we haven't really seen her in action yet (cf. Colette).

Date: 2019-09-16 01:44 pm (UTC)
spectrum_09: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spectrum_09
Lars had a plot purpose. The effect on Agatha is shown here: http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090209#.XX-Q7ShKjIU

He was correct in his dying words. Agatha was The Heterodyne, a politically important and powerful individual, not the commoner daughter of a blacksmith and a piano teacher. It would not have worked long term.

Date: 2019-09-16 09:55 pm (UTC)
spectrum_09: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spectrum_09
Other than her being a powerful noble, there is the issue of her being a strong Spark, which was raised in the novels. Lars makes the realization that he is becoming romantically involved with a woman who, if she felt wronged, could turn him into a carrot. I have this same issue with Steve Trevor and Diana of Themyscira. (She's a god who, right in font of him, hurled a multi ton armored car across a plaza.) A woman you don't want to annoy, much less piss off. There is a serious power imbalance, something Violetta thinks also applies to Gil and Agatha, but in the other direction.

The situation for Lars is different than Agatha's. She has no choice.
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040929#.XYAEdyhKhWw
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20041001#.XYAEnyhKhWw

The same issue I raised (much to the disagreement from my female friends at the time) about Han and Leia. She is royalty. He is a pirate. It won't work long term. In Episode VII, we saw that it didn't.
Edited Date: 2019-09-16 10:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-09-17 05:42 pm (UTC)
jbwoodford: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jbwoodford
Lars makes the realization that he is becoming romantically involved with a woman who, if she felt wronged, could turn him into a carrot.

It was also much clearer in the novel that Lars was coming to appreciate just how smart Agatha is, and feeling rather out of his depth because of it. The books are more explicit in describing the Spark as far more than just the ability to violate physical law on a profound scale just to make a better cup of coffee. Agatha, Tarvek, Gil, and Klaus are also terrifyingly intelligent.

Date: 2019-09-16 10:35 am (UTC)
madfilkentist: Krosp, from Girl Genius by Phil and Kaja Foglio. (Krosp)
From: [personal profile] madfilkentist
I'm confused three times over. Did Albia send Tarvek a headache-inducing telepathic message to tell him to do what he's already doing? Who is the guardian? What unexpected thing happened?

On the last, perhaps Trelawney vanished or turned back to normal size. Albia's messages give the impression she expects to be out of the picture, at least for a little while.

Date: 2019-09-16 12:04 pm (UTC)
spectrum_09: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spectrum_09
Albia's telepathic message was to physically free Agatha. Lucrezia is after Agatha. They might have to move her. Trelawney is Albia's guardian and is about to reappear as Albia breaks the link. Lucrezia just shot empty space as "ALbia" is no longer there.

Date: 2019-09-16 12:37 pm (UTC)
madfilkentist: Krosp, from Girl Genius by Phil and Kaja Foglio. (Krosp)
From: [personal profile] madfilkentist
Freeing Agatha while Lucrezia still possesses her would be a strange thing to do. She'd stay and support her alter ego.

Date: 2019-09-16 01:45 pm (UTC)
spectrum_09: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spectrum_09
I doubt they can do anything while she is in Albia's force field.

Date: 2019-09-16 03:37 pm (UTC)
kelkyag: eye-shaped patterns on birch trunk (birch eyes)
From: [personal profile] kelkyag
I'd assumed Albia meant to *mentally* free Agatha, by finishing the Lucrezia extraction process that Gil and Tarvek are already working on. I guess we'll find out what they do, at least, if not what Albia meant.
Edited (typo & tense) Date: 2019-09-16 03:38 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-09-17 03:25 am (UTC)
elmegil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elmegil
Agreed

Date: 2019-09-17 12:26 am (UTC)
turbobeholder: (periscope)
From: [personal profile] turbobeholder
Albia left instructions, and now her halo is in disarray and more or less a vertical plane.
Thus it looks like now Albia deflects the third shot and leaves. After which Trelawney probably will be out of shape at best, and comatose at worst.
Which is why she had to tell them to do what they do. Otherwise there would be a good chance they'll try something heroic and end up both with their backs to Lugatha when her restraints fail.
This leaves Zeetha the task of dealing with the doll Lucrezia, hopefully before her staff recharges once more.

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