Date: 2025-07-09 06:59 am (UTC)
cmdr_zoom: (oops)
From: [personal profile] cmdr_zoom
Someone else-forum made the point that this is yet another demonstration that Agatha is actually more mature than her mother.

Daddy's Evil Little Girl never really, entirely grew up. But sometimes she doesn't get everything she wants, and that's simply intolerable.

Date: 2025-07-09 08:45 pm (UTC)
marycatelli: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marycatelli
Klaus the long-suffering.

Date: 2025-07-10 05:14 am (UTC)
murgatroyd_666: (von_Zinzer_Hah)
From: [personal profile] murgatroyd_666
Klaus the inwardly rebelling, always looking for a loophole that will let him obey her direct order yet thwart her goals.

Date: 2025-07-10 11:07 pm (UTC)
kelkyag: eye-shaped patterns on birch trunk (birch eyes)
From: [personal profile] kelkyag
For all that Lucrezia has a long history of successfully manipulating Klaus, that was when they were rivals, friends, and/or lovers. Now he knows her to be the Other. She's going to have to use air tight logic, not emotional manipulation with a side of betrayal, and that's not her style.

Team Lucrezia is suddenly a lot weaker than Trelawney's initial assessment. The broken clank is rather limited in what she can do (though she probably still has things like sonic weapons available). The newly embodied Lucrezia-in-Olga (presumed), even before the injury, likely has the same limitation that Lucrezia-in-Agatha had: no combat reflexes or muscle memory. She probably also isn't a strong spark, if she's a spark at all -- Olga was already dead at the circus spark reveal & I don't recall other data -- and definitely doesn't have the neural pathways and brain chemistry already primed by drinking Dyne water, so she probably still needs a wellspring-and-flame or other suitable power source (whatever the polar lords use? Castle Wulfenbach's engines?) to go into Queen mode.

I wonder which memory set these Lucrezia downloads were made from -- Lucrezia-in-Anevka? They know about Klaus being spark-wasped, but catching up over tea, or limited comments from Zola, aren't the same as witnessing the process.

Very tangentially, does "It takes an organic mind-to find the spark" suggests that the upgraded head Tarvek built to install Lucrezia in Anevka's body had a (partially?) organic mind, or perhaps was strongly patterned after an organic mind. Lucrezia's work (studied by Tarvek) included organic-to-mechanical mind transfers, and the reverse, so she should have a better grasp than most of the differences.

Date: 2025-07-11 04:51 am (UTC)
bunsen_h: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bunsen_h
To be fair, if I had a foot blown off, I'd be pretty upset too.

Date: 2025-07-11 05:04 am (UTC)
bunsen_h: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bunsen_h
I wonder if that's Olga's body... used by Klaus because of his mental gymnastics, since he'd originally believed that it was Agatha's, as another setback for Lucrezia. "It's a clone of 'Agatha'."

Date: 2025-07-11 06:52 am (UTC)
turbobeholder: (periscope)
From: [personal profile] turbobeholder
He has a strong persistent temptation to administer a dose of makeshift anaesthesia upside the head. After listening to her for a while, «inwardly rebelling» may not be required for this. :]

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