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Re: WARNING! RAMPANT SPECULATIONS AHEAD!

[personal profile] spectrum_09 2025-05-30 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
Klaus was aware he was wasped. He did manage to tell Philbert a coded story that Tarvek decoded.
https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20120210

Also possible, he knows he has been frozen in Mechancisburg for over two and a half years. It's now 2 1/2 years later than his last memory, especially if he has only recently been removed from the town. So Tryggvassen, Boris, Thorpe, Martellus allied is a strange future he is now in.

Just my thoughs.

Re: WARNING! RAMPANT SPECULATIONS AHEAD!

[personal profile] mikeda 2025-05-30 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Being pleased to see Othar may be enough by itself to make it strange...
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Re: WARNING! RAMPANT SPECULATIONS AHEAD!

[personal profile] marycatelli 2025-05-31 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Very true
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Re: WARNING! RAMPANT SPECULATIONS AHEAD!

[personal profile] murgatroyd_666 2025-05-31 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Once again, I wish we had a "vote up" function for comments like yours!
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Re: WARNING! RAMPANT SPECULATIONS AHEAD!

[personal profile] bunsen_h 2025-05-30 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
He knows that he was frozen in Mechanicsburg for some duration, so it's definitely sometime in the future relative to when he activated the time-stop device. I get the impression that he's pleased to see Othar, for some reason, and that it's that pleasure he finds strange given their history of conflict. It's possible that he's pleased to be confronting Othar under circumstances that might let him finally kill Othar, but that doesn't feel quite right.

If the side stories such as "Revenge of the Weasel Queen" are canonical, we know that Othar will survive these events.
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[personal profile] kelkyag 2025-05-30 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Klaus is happy to see Othar because Boris and Chakraborty will attempt to follow established protocol, Trelawney will at least try non-violent methods first, and Martellus might consider the political implications before attacking, but Othar is just trying to take Klaus down, and that's the most likely thing to prevent Klaus from doing whatever Lucrezia ordered him to do. (Which is probably growing her a new body and copying her personality into it. Which would be Bad. Protecting the tank from Othar is legitimately following orders without moving the plan forward.)
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[personal profile] murgatroyd_666 2025-05-31 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Othar is just trying to take Klaus down, and that's the most likely thing to prevent Klaus from doing whatever Lucrezia ordered him to do.

Oh my! Good point!
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Re: WARNING! RAMPANT SPECULATIONS AHEAD!

[personal profile] murgatroyd_666 2025-05-31 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
If memory serves, the Professors have stated that only "ElectriC Coffin" is canon.
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[personal profile] jbwoodford 2025-05-31 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Othar's Twitter may not be officially canon, but it does line up interestingly with the known timeline.
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[personal profile] murgatroyd_666 2025-05-31 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Also possible, he knows he has been frozen in Mechancisburg for over two and a half years.

You're probably right, but I'm not yet entirely convinced that this Klaus is the same one who might have been recently released from the Take Five Bomb stasis. The Professors might want us to believe that, though.

Wheels within wheels within wheels ...
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[personal profile] kelkyag 2025-06-01 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
That's a fascinating possible diversion. Lucrezia could have been dragging Klaus around in time to do things for her indefinitely. The apparent lack of Lucrezias in the current time who weren't instantiated in the current timeline suggests some limitations on time travel, but what? Other than Lucrezia herself (as seen in Albia's memories), has anyone been physically present in an earlier time? There are various examples of viewing earlier times, with two-way information transfer. Could Lucrezia have "traveled" back in time by copying herself onto someone from the distant past?

... that meandered more than I intended, but the core question about what time travel can actually do exists.
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[personal profile] murgatroyd_666 2025-06-01 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
There were statements in the early books that Professor Beetle had knowledge of actions by Klaus the Klaus himself knew that he hadn't done (yet) ... a strong implication that a later version of Klaus had visited the past.
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[personal profile] kelkyag 2025-06-02 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Extra information in the books feels a bit unfair. Ah well.
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[personal profile] murgatroyd_666 2025-06-03 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
No, that's in the webcomic, too.
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